Motherhood is God’s Plan for Your Sanctification

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Motherhood is God's Plan for Your Sanctification
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Recently, I saw a meme floating around thanks to Tim Challies. It pictured a woman hugging herself, with these words: “The highest aim of womanhood is NOT motherhood; the highest aim of womanhood is being conformed to the image of Christ—Gloria Furman.”
In this episode, we’ll talk about why this statement is false, why Big Eva(ngelicalism) is awash with pietistic drivel like this, and what Scripture actually teaches about salvation and motherhood for women.
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8 thoughts on “Motherhood is God’s Plan for Your Sanctification”

  1. I agree with everything you are saying and thank you for preaching the truth that I have thirsted for for years (I am a woman abs wife and new mom praise God). But I want to say it was sometimes hard to listen to because of the lack of gentleness and just intentional sarcasm and harshness. Also Using Gods name in vain (saying OMG when quoting a valley girl) and using the word retarded as an adjective. Why did you choose to communicate this message that way? It distracted from the amazing truth you are preaching. Just was compelled to let you know this.

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    • Thanks for the feedback. Glad the message hit home.

      In the past, sarcasm, humor, and biting language was a normal part of the world. See especially Martin Luther or Calvin’s commentaries. Read the founding fathers’ exchanges with ideas and people during that time period. Satire and similar genres are all but lost in an era of political correctness. We are worse off for it. Men, especially, are expected to communicate in the vein of “niceness.”

      Context is also helpful—this wasn’t a sermon from a “priest” archetype in a pulpit. It was a “king” type attempting to slay a few dragons. Kings are often not seen as “nice little boys” by the “priest” class. And that’s OK.

      Consider, “Luther used humor to meet his rhetorical goals, “to enhance his biblical witness, to ridicule those in power, and to mock death and the devil.” Twenty-five years after he published the Ninety-Five Theses, for instance, he poked fun at an archbishop who made the faithful pay admission to view sacred remains by circulating a pamphlet (anonymous at first) advertising mock relics, including three flames from the burning bush on Mount Sinai.

      His humor tended toward the scatological. He claimed he experienced a spiritual revelation while on the toilet: “The Holy Spirit unveiled the Scriptures for me in the tower.” The pope, a nemesis, was his “dearest little ass-pope.”

      All that said, in the words of a country song, “I’m not for everyone.” I say that with a bit of humor. I think you’ll find most of my episodes aren’t as biting as that one. But keep one thing in mind: even at the time, many people thought the reformers rather crass and, well, not gentle or nice. It’s part of the work of reform.

      Thanks again. Eric

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      • I know this was from months ago, but I just now listened☺️ First, I understand and support sarcasm or rough speech when needed, but I would say that in this episode, and any future ones on similar topics, aimed particularly at women—we are the weaker vessel, after all🤣—your female audience is likely mostly going to be women who are on the same page regarding gender roles, patriarchy, and the like, and are seeking answers. Sure a feminist will listen here or there to be nasty—see that comment below lol—but by and large it’s probably ladies who are already convinced of these positions. That being said, for those of us on the patriarchy, pro-motherhood team, who are not married, this is a very difficult subject, and honestly there are very few resources FROM the patriarchal world for single women specifically, even moreso teachings on how we are to live as biblical patriarchal women WHILE single. Everything is either geared toward married people, or telling us to seek marriage. We’re typically already doing that, and what we really need to know is what to do with our lives NOW, because like it or not that’s where we are and how we must live. Of course we can and should benefit from the plethora of marriage and motherhood content in this camp, but there is a real lack* of answers to the questions and problems we specifically face being single. And the only other place to find those answers is from TGC a d their ilk, but we are well aware that singleness is not a gift and we are not within God’s normative plan. And it’s HARD. And scary (see the topic of this podcast, it literally affects our salvation. That’s a DEEP burden). All that to say, while owning the libs is well and good, for us these questions of how our marital status impacts our salvation, sanctification, and godliness is a topic that causes much anxiety and despair, when we’re already dealing with fear and despair over unanswered prayers for marriage and babies. We need clear, precise, and practical answers; screw sticking it to Feminist Fran, our salvation is on the line, help US (see that rough language?👍🏻). It may be beneficial to consider that those are the ones listening to the pod to actually learn and grow, and speak primarily to them on episodes like this, rather than focus primarily on dragging libs (again, all for dragging libs). But the split here was 3/4 owning feminists and correcting that view, and a few minutes at the end encouraging and instructing those of us here looking for actual answers—which was indeed very helpful and appreciated! Though to be honest I’m still a bit unclear on how I am to be sanctified and saved without marriage and motherhood. I was a bit confused when you went from spending the episode talking about how motherhood is THE means by which God sanctifies and saves women, but then at the end, if God hasn’t given you a family he isn’t withholding good from you. But…isn’t he withholding sanctification and salvation then? That’s a terrifying thought😬 Anywho, just $.02 from an internet stranger that enjoys the pod! Keep dragging libs👊🏻 but perhaps keep your audience in mind on heavy topics like this

        *edited to add that I think Nancy Wilson has a book about being single, but……I know of nothing else lol

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  2. How about you shut the fuck up and stay out of grown women’s business, you stupid fuck. I’ll don’t want children. I have a career and there’s not a fucking thing you can do about it! Diead! 🖕🖕🖕

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  3. Thanks Eric. I’m a mom of 6 and constantly feel like I’m apologizing for the size and spacing of our family.
    It is refreshing to hear someone talk about these issues with their head screwed on straight. I’ve noticed too the trend toward downplaying motherhood and having a “married to the church” type attitude for singles. I’ve heard people say our devotion to the church is more important than to family. This is because Church Family is permanent, whereas the marriage/parent relationship is temporary. (Well, assuming our families aren’t part of the Church 🙄)
    Motherhood is not for the faint of heart. Neither is Christianity. I’ve had my 6 out of fear and trembling. Each one seemed like more than we could handle. There is no doubt they’ve taught me to rely on God, and there’s no doubt they’ve all been an incredible blessing to me and added fullness and purpose to my life.
    I can’t imagine what life would have been like on my terms (I wanted to travel, too! I was very much into my own interests…but thank God he led me in a different path.)
    It was so refreshing to hear you discuss this without pulling punches. Young women need to hear someone talking sense on this topic. Thank you!!!

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  4. “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” The Apostle Paul, Galatians 3:28 (NIV) The highest and best state of ALL human beings is Christ-likeness. “Family values” can also become an idol. Anything which displaces Jesus Christ as “the main thing” is heresy.

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  5. Eric,
    I honestly think you are a man who attempts to seek hard after God. However, I believe you have been led by men trying too hard to “be God’s best man” who forgot how to be a kind, relational person.

    I recently saw a post of yours sharing an episode of your podcast. The title caught my eye. I am sure you already have an inkling of which one it was. “Motherhood is God’s plan for your sanctification.”

    I think we can both be honest enough to say that I didn’t neglect my duty on the motherhood front, as evidenced by our six children. I also regularly attend church, and I am not a “powerful female” that pastors would be afraid to offend because I might take my money with me.

    So, all of that said. I find your podcast episode assuming, ungraciously mocking, and downright a half truth about what God’s calling for women to be. You tried to box us into one small aspect of what it means to be a woman. Considering what I know of you, your wife, and your family, I thought higher of you than acting like the macho men pastors of our growing up years.

    “Truth is God’s plan for your sanctification.” John 17:17
    Christ Santicfies and washes his bride the church Eph 5:25-26
    That He(Jesus) might sanctify the people by his blood – Hebrews 13:12
    WE are to sanctify God in our hearts – 1 Peter 3:15

    You managed to mock pastors, women, and non-Christians while you “preached” a podcast about how we should feel shame for “rejecting motherhood.” You used shame as a manipulation tactic instead of using relationships to inspire. That saddens me.

    First of all, it is a big assumption that everyone who isn’t a mother has rejected motherhood. There are many more factors to being a mother other than physical ability; mental and spiritual ability should also be a factor that everyone takes into account.

    Brother, this was poorly done. I am saddened that someone as good of a communicator as you, a fantastic writer and researcher, would resort to making a podcast that is more about making fun of those with whom he disagrees. Then about how beautiful and inspiring motherhood can be and the balls, it takes to be an overcoming woman within motherhood, and a culture that takes motherhood for granted, and constantly minimizes the abilities, wit, and the task of constant balancing it takes to be a mother in our time of history.

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